Idiocy: The Mind on Atheism

Speech is how human beings express their heart, mind and soul. Below is an example of a prominent atheist expressing his profound idiocy through the written word. This prominent atheist was a devout Christian until he entered a masters degree program on religion.

There are three features of Bible god that spoil Christian theology: (1) This god behaves like a furious toddler when it doesn’t get its way. (2) This god keeps a close watch on everything that every person does, says, and even thinks—or so plenty of Bible texts claim. I suspect that many of the devout don’t live as if this is true. (3) This furious toddler gets upset over trivia, instead of over great moral issues. Barker illustrates this in a major section of his essay. 

It is the atheist who is the furious toddler. One need not be Jew or Christian to appreciate the depth and breadth of biblical literature, or the profound, prolonged influence the Bible has had on the world via Christian Western Civilization.

Let’s go through the atheist’s three statements.

  1. This god behaves like a furious toddler when it doesn’t get its way.

The idiocy expressed here is that all powerful God could be thwarted by an ancient tribe of barbarian Canaanites. Because idiocy is the mind on atheism, the atheists does not have the intellectual capacity to absorb and contemplate the biblical text in search of the truth. Discovering the truth takes an agile, determined mind.

2. This god keeps a close watch on everything that every person does, says, and even thinks—or so plenty of Bible texts claim.

Why would God who created the universe down to the molecule, atom, and quark, not keep close watch on his creation? Only a person whose mind is on atheism (an idiot) could speak such profound, raw ignorance.

A month ago I asked my students to look out the classroom window and tell me what they saw. One said, “I see the sidewalk.” Another said, “I see a car.”

“What I see is beauty,” I told them. For beyond the sidewalk and the car was a beautiful forest. In fact, the town had been carved out of thick forest. As my students mature and begin getting over themselves they will look out and see beauty.

Unfortunately, a person whose mind is on atheism (an idiot) never matures. The atheist is forever a toddler. The atheist will always see the car, or the concrete and never be aware of the beauty that is all around them, or the God who so lovingly created it.

3. This furious toddler gets upset over trivia, instead of over great moral issues.

This statement is the piece de resistance of atheist idiocy. First, it is infused by the idiocy expressed in items #1 and #2: God as a toddler and the expression of his profound love as trivial pursuit. Second, the atheist has no idea that God’s interest in moral issues is precisely because of his profound love for us. God has no need of morality. However for human beings, morality is critical.

Why can’t the atheist comprehend such simple, obvious biblical truths? Answer: idiocy is the mind on atheism.

84 responses to “Idiocy: The Mind on Atheism”

  1. I’m curious here…. why does it matter what a self-proclaimed ashiest might think or (not) believe? For that matter, why is there this propensity to debate between the Bible and science? Yeah, I know the internet is a great debating medium and there might be some compelling intellectual sport component to try and argue the logic (or lack thereof) between fact and faith. But in the end what does it matter? Of course it’s human to want to affirm (or defend) our own beliefs and opinions by trying to sell others on our relevancy in having our own different ideas on life, faith, and existence. But just like political differences, we all have our own biases that give us personal comfort, whether there’s a basis on fact or faith.

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    1. Dear Doug, I apologize for deleting your last comment. My site is buggy.

      Please repost your comment if you wish.

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    2. Doug, Your question, “What does it matter?” is amazing!

      It matters because atheists become corporate CEO’s. They become film makers and screen writers. They become teachers and school administrators. They become POTUS and Supreme Court Justices. They become mother and fathers.

      Can a civilization survive with idiots in control of everything?

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      1. Can’t an atheist have a moral center and have some adherence to a Golden Rule? Or are you suggesting an atheist is some sort of spawn of Satan?

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        1. Sometimes atheists adopt Christian values. That is the only way an atheist can have a moral center. The golden rule is nothing without God as its foundation.

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          1. Yet you presented the warning above that somehow atheists being corporate CEO’s and POTUS and SCOTUS will ruin mankind. I might submit that the previous Presidential Lyin’ King claimed some level of being a Christian yet hardly reflected anything like it. To stay in focus here to my original reply, I was questioning the concept of continuing debate over something that really doesn’t matter to debate.

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            1. Doug, Jesus said a person can be known by their fruits. Under President Trump, the world was at peace and Americans were prosperous. Under Brandon, the world is on the edge of thermonuclear war, criminals rule the streets, the border is open and hyperinflation is impoverishing everyone except the filthy rich. You do the math.

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            2. Ah well.. my dislike for Trump and all he stands for has nothing to do with comparing him to Biden one way or the other. Biden will stand on his own.. or not… as will Trump. I can debate the politics, but faith to me is up to the individual.

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            3. Doug, Your dislike for President Trump is a mental illness called Trump Derangement Syndrome, or TDS for short. Comparing good with evil is an exercise in simple reasoning: President Trump is good. Brandon is evil. By their fruits we know them.

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            4. Hehe.. ok. I’ll leave you to work religious issues with Mr. Ben. Looks like you’ve got your hands full there. 🙂

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            5. Doug, I appreciate you coming by to comment. I always wonder why atheists are not able to discuss the topic at hand. What relevance does President Trump have to the topic of this post? The atheist that I quote said nothing of President Trump.

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          2. What version of what god?

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            1. Ben, Your question has already been answered. Please read for comprehension.

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            2. Where is your answer, sir? If you would perhaps be so kind as to point me in its direction…

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            3. The answer is hidden in the word, “Christian,” as in “sometimes atheists adopt Christian values.”

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            4. OK then, which version of Christianity? Catholic, Orthodox, Baptist, Protestant? Which version should take precedence over the others, as a basis for morality?

              Then there’s the question I posed on my own site, that you apparently did not notice, or decided to avoid, through all of this, a question needs asking – why the Christian version of God? How can SoM be certain that God is not better represented through Judaism, Islam, Sikhism, Hinduism, or for that matter, the pantheons of the Norse, Greek, and Roman gods? SoM is so convinced, not only of the benevolence of the Christian God, but of their existence, but Biblical history has no more been proven than any other religion. It’s entirely possible that the truth is something no one has considered.

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            5. Ben, use the brain that God gave you to answer your own question. Sometime, somewhere, you need to start thinking on your own.

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            6. Hmm, you don’t appear to be acting in a very Christian manner, and the question was posed to *you*. Since you appear to consider yourself so smart (enough to be so conceited to others), surely it is easy for you to answer?

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            7. Ben, you are typical of atheists: you ask a Christian a stupid question then beat the Christian over the head with Christian morality.

              The rest of your comment is rude and judgmental, again, typical of atheists.

              I will be glad to have a conversation. But first, get a brain of your own, then teach it some Christian manners.

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            8. I merely respond to your evasive rudeness, if you want an adult conversation, conduct yourself like one, and address the question, instead of being a bad example of Christian arrogance. To put it another way, Matthew 7:12 – Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you:
              do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. Perhaps, in your rush to be condescending, you have forgotten that verse.

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            9. Ben, You are hallucinating me with someone else. Not submitting to your stupid question is not me being evasive. Calling out atheists for being idiots is the cold hard truth. Who but an idiot is insulted by the truth? And an atheist quoting the Bible to shame a Christian is laughable. Ben, you need to step up your game. To quote, Brandon, your beloved president, “Come on, man!”

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            10. Sorry, but you *are* being evasive. The question is a simple one, yet you are engaging in histrionics, and childish behaviour, and it seems the Bible quotes have touched a nerve. Are you not able to address God’s history of commanding needless violence? Perhaps your knowledge of the Bible is incomplete?

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            11. Ben, There is nothing in my post about Christianity except what the atheist wrote. So you need to ask him what version of Christianity he was referring to.

              My post is about simple reasoning which transcends all religions. The ability to reason is a uniquely human power.

              Thus, it is you who are being evasive by asking an irrelevant question in an attempt to hijack my post and steer it away from its thesis, which both you and Doug have proven in spades.

              But I do appreciate you coming by to comment.

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            12. Reason, you will find, does indeed transcend religion. It is not unique to religion, nor, for that matter, is it often found among religious practitioners these days. You believe a person cannot be moral without adopting religious ideals, correct? Since you are a Christian, you also presumably subscribe to the idea that Christian morality is superior to that of other religions, correct?

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            13. Ben, Still, you are trying to commandeer my post. I will not let you do that. Maybe you could post on your own blog what you want to dialogue about. Then I can come over there and comment. I will show you the respect of addressing your topic and promise not to commandeer your post with a topic irrelevant to yours.

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            14. Well, I already have a couple of posts that I imagine you are aware of, you are welcome to comment on them. However, your post itself rallied against the idea of God as a tantrum-throwing toddler, and I addressed that, by listing the not-inconsiderable acts in the Old Testament that represent shocking violence and brutality, unless God is obeyed in *exactly the right way*. So, with respect, I do not see how I am going off-topic. However, I will acquiesce to your wishes.

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            15. @ben
              Re. your idea that God ( not god) is an expert at ‘needless violence.’

              Uh, I’m pretty sure you have it backwards, as we the people do rather with needless violence. Read the papers lately???

              God ‘kills’ when needed. Men murder for no reason. See how this works? God neither sweats nor needs your approval.

              It go ahead, provide an example where anything God does is unnecessary.

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            16. Quoting from a rather excellent site, creationtheory.org, and a post on my own site, https://meerkatmusings.co.uk/the-mind-on-atheism/

              Leviticus 10:1-2 (God kills Aaron’s sons for making the victimless crime of making “unauthorized fire”).

              Aaron’s sons Nadab and Abihu took their censers, put fire in them and added incense; and they offered unauthorized fire before the LORD, contrary to his command. So fire came out from the presence of the LORD and consumed them, and they died before the LORD.

              Perhaps you would care to explain how any of the actions listed on my post are necessary, or moral?

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            17. Care to explain? Sure, be happy to.

              The answer is as easy as light and darkness. Lawlessness must not exist in places destined for good.

              Not only that, you are in no position to tell God what is moral.

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            18. Not much of an answer to be honest. I for one, would not kill someone for starting a fire. I would not obey an order to kill someone for doing so, would you? To quote from the Book of Joshua, via creationtheory.org:

              Joshua 8:24-25 (As usual, Joshua indiscriminately kills soldiers and civilians alike, women and children, all the people in the entire city)

              When Israel had finished killing all the men of Ai in the fields and in the desert where they had chased them, and when every one of them had been put to the sword, all the Israelites returned to Ai and killed those who were in it. Twelve thousand men and women fell that day–all the people of Ai.

              Joshua 10:11-14 (A wonderful crazy-combo. God himself aids in the Israelite war effort by killing the Amorites with huge hailstones, thus putting to rest any apologist notions that the Israelites’ atrocities went against his wishes. Then we enter the land of bizarre astrophysics, in which the Sun and the Moon “stopped in the middle of the sky” until Israel destroyed its enemies)

              As they fled before Israel on the road down from Beth Horon to Azekah, the LORD hurled large hailstones down on them from the sky, and more of them died from the hailstones than were killed by the swords of the Israelites. On the day the LORD gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the LORD in the presence of Israel: “O sun, stand still over Gibeon, O moon, over the Valley of Aijalon.”

              So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day. There has never been a day like it before or since, a day when the LORD listened to a man. Surely the LORD was fighting for Israel!

              Would you obey commands to kill bystanders, as God commanded of Joshua? Would you consider such acts to be moral?

              From the Book of Samuel: 1 Samuel 27:8-11 (As usual, David indiscriminately murders women and children for their material possessions. during his raids. Note the reason for his ruthlessness: he wants to protect his anonymity! Also note that one of his victims is the Amalekites, who were “totally destroyed” by Saul back in 1 Samuel 15. One of countless Biblical inconsistencies)

              Now David and his men went up and raided the Geshurites, the Girzites and the Amalekites. Whenever David attacked an area, he did not leave a man or woman alive, but took sheep and cattle, donkeys and camels, and clothes. Then he returned to Achish. When Achish asked, “Where did you go raiding today?” David would say, “Against the Negev of Judah” or “Against the Negev of Jerahmeel” or “Against the Negev of the Kenites.” He did not leave a man or woman alive to be brought to Gath, for he thought, “They might inform on us and say, `This is what David did.’” And such was his practice as long as he lived in Philistine territory.

              Would you obey such commands?

              2 Kings 2:23-24 (God kills 42 boys for being rude)

              From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some youths came out of the town and jeered at him. “Go on up, you baldhead!” they said. “Go on up, you baldhead!” He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths.

              I suppose I’m justified, morally so no less, to kill the next person who is rude to me?

              Through all of this, it is worth noting that SoM asked me to cease this particular line of conversation on his post, since he felt I was subverting its intent. With that in mind, I would ask, ‘your place or mine?’, in terms of furthering this conversation (unless of course, SoM has changed their mind).

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            19. One of the odd things about Atheists is that they complain about Biblical morality yet they cannot point to any basis for their own moral standards. The most ironic example of this is the argument that God does not exist, at least a good God, because a good God would not tolerate evil.

              What is the problem with that argument? If a good God does not exist, then how is it that we know the difference between good and evil?

              So, what about all your examples? What is wrong with those examples? Well, the answer is actually pertinent to SOM’s post. So, I will attempt to provide it.

              Consider the story of God ordering Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac (see Genesis 22). Naturally, Abraham would have been horrified by the command, but he went ahead and obeyed.

              Was it evil of God to make such a demand of Abraham? No. Why not?

              Consider the book of Job. God allowed Satan to murder Job’s family and cause Job terrible suffering. Yet Job refused to curse God. That book ends with Job praising God, but God had still not answered Job’s questions.

              Was it evil of God to allow Satan to torment Job? Job did not think so. Why not?

              God is God. We are His creations. God created everything. He is sovernreign. He is good. He is holy. He is also omnicent. We are not any of those things. Yet here you are trying to put yourself on the same level as God. That is not smart, but that is what Atheists do, put themselves on the same level as God.

              What Atheists do is say that God does not exist because God does not treat them as their equals. Absurd!

              In your first example, you say would not caill someone for starting a fire. Well, God did.

              I assume your are referring to Leviticus 10, The Sin of Nadab and Abihu. Read Leviticus 10. Moses reminded Aaron why God did it. There was not anything arbitrary about it. Nadab and Abihu died because they did not treat God as holy. They died because they did not believe God. That is essentially the same sin Adam and Eve committed.

              God created us for His glory. What He will eventually make of those of us who love Him God only knows. Meanwhile, we trust Him because He loves us. We love Him because he first loved us.

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            20. [quote]One of the odd things about Atheists is that they complain about Biblical morality yet they cannot point to any basis for their own moral standards. The most ironic example of this is the argument that God does not exist, at least a good God, because a good God would not tolerate evil.

              What is the problem with that argument? If a good God does not exist, then how is it that we know the difference between good and evil?[/quote]

              This old argument. The idea that morality can only be drawn from God begins to look shaky, as soon as any analysis emerges of God’s Old Testament wrath. The idea that morality cannot exist without God is defied by the existence of millions of atheists and agnostics, all around the world, who do not go around killing, raping, stealing, or abusing, any more than religious practitioners do (and in some cases, less so). Humanist morality exists, and you can read about it here: http://creationtheory.org/Morality/AtheistMorality-HumanistCode.xhtml

              I also suggest you read this post by my friend, Bruce: https://brucegerencser.net/2019/01/quote-of-the-day-where-morality-comes-from/

              [quote]So, what about all your examples? What is wrong with those examples? Well, the answer is actually pertinent to SOM’s post. So, I will attempt to provide it.

              Consider the story of God ordering Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac (see Genesis 22). Naturally, Abraham would have been horrified by the command, but he went ahead and obeyed.

              Was it evil of God to make such a demand of Abraham? No. Why not?[/quote]

              Are you asking me to answer? I personally don’t think I’d consider a request to murder my daughter in a positive light. I would never consider obeying. Would that make me a bad person, even if the order came from God?

              [quote]Consider the book of Job. God allowed Satan to murder Job’s family and cause Job terrible suffering. Yet Job refused to curse God. That book ends with Job praising God, but God had still not answered Job’s questions.

              Was it evil of God to allow Satan to torment Job? Job did not think so. Why not?[/quote]

              Better question, do *you* think it was evil?

              [quote]God is God. We are His creations. God created everything. He is sovernreign. He is good. He is holy. He is also omnicent. We are not any of those things. Yet here you are trying to put yourself on the same level as God. That is not smart, but that is what Atheists do, put themselves on the same level as God.

              What Atheists do is say that God does not exist because God does not treat them as their equals. Absurd![/quote]

              I dare say most atheists dispute the existence of God due to things like science and logic. The moral question is slightly different. SoM disputed the presentation of God as an angry toddler, yet tell me Tom, what would *you* do in these scenarios? What does your heart tell you is right?

              [quote]In your first example, you say would not caill someone for starting a fire. Well, God did.

              I assume your are referring to Leviticus 10, The Sin of Nadab and Abihu. Read Leviticus 10. Moses reminded Aaron why God did it. There was not anything arbitrary about it. Nadab and Abihu died because they did not treat God as holy. They died because they did not believe God. That is essentially the same sin Adam and Eve committed.[/quote]

              So even worse than being arbitrary, God killed them because they did not bow down to Him? Is this all-powerful, omnipresent being so emotionally fragile that He kills, because He is not worshipped?

              [QUOTE]God created us for His glory. What He will eventually make of those of us who love Him God only knows. Meanwhile, we trust Him because He loves us. We love Him because he first loved us.[/QUOTE]

              Tom, I want you to consider this question. If God told you to kill me, because in His eyes I am not righteous, or moral, would you obey His command? Consider that you know nothing about me, beyond my words on this post. What would you do if God placed a dagger in your hand, and me in front of you, and told you to plunge the blade into my heart?

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            21. What would you do if God placed a dagger in your hand, and me in front of you, and told you to plunge the blade into my heart?

              Well, when God commands us to do something like that, the Bible indicates He makes it obvious He is the One giving that command. That being the case I wonder why you wouldn’t stick stick a knife in me if God commanded you to do so. Of course. I suspect you would do so. Your daughter, maybe not. Apparently, you don’t know, love, or trust God.

              What about Atheistic morality? Yours first reference (from creationtheory.org) doesn’t explain Atheistic morality.; it attacks Christianity and rewrites history. So, it doesn’t answer the question.

              Your second reference (brucegerencser.net)
              sounds very scientific, but it is not. Admittedly, it feels good, do it is the formula that many lifeforms use to make choices, including human beings. However, that does not constitute a well-considered moral code.

              Romans 2:12-16 speaks of us as having God’s law written upon our hearts, and that passage observes that some, even Gentiles, obey that law. Therefore, God has provided us His law outside the Bible. The fact that Atheists think this is some sort of new discovery that has an evolutionary basis

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            22. [quote]Well, when God commands us to do something like that, the Bible indicates He makes it obvious He is the One giving that command. That being the case I wonder why you wouldn’t stick stick a knife in me if God commanded you to do so. Of course. I suspect you would do so. Your daughter, maybe not. Apparently, you don’t know, love, or trust God.[/quote]

              So, to be clear, if God told you to kill me, you would obey that command without question, and without any justification from God as to why they issued such an order?

              [quote]What about Atheistic morality? Yours first reference (from creationtheory.org) doesn’t explain Atheistic morality.; it attacks Christianity and rewrites history. So, it doesn’t answer the question.[/quote]

              Then I dare say you need to revisit that site, and also Bruce’s site. To me, they both explain how an atheist can be moral. There can be good atheists and bad atheists, just as there are good Christians and bad Christians. There are Christians who abuse children; there are atheists who abuse children. There are atheists who lead quiet, good lives, and Christians who do the same.

              The difference in moral codes seems to be that Christians (and followers of other religions) are good because of the expectation of a reward, and fear of punishment. It is not in human nature to commit murder, and atheists do not murder because they fear Hell or expect Heaven for not doing so.

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            23. Ben, the greatest mass murders (genocides) in history were committed by atheists.

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            24. Ben, Hitler was a Christian just like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Brandon are Catholics.

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            25. Ben, Again you venture into irrelevancy. Atheists Joseph Stalin and Mao Tse Tung, together murdered 100,000,000 of their own people. Adolf Hitler, was a piker compared to them demonstrating that you have just argued with yourself and lost. Which is usual for atheists.

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            26. Ben, Your arguments are irrelevant because they only lead into the weeds. A Christian is as a Christian does. Therefore, Hitler could not have been Christian because he was evil. PERIOD. Your version of history is the usual leftist crap.

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            27. My version of history is the real one, not your dishonest one.

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            28. Of course, Ben. Your version of everything is the right one. Your attempt to control the dialogue, your attempt to control history and the facts speaks to the totalitarian, genocidal properties of atheism.

              If you control everything, you have no need to think, learn or know the truth. Thus, my thesis: idiocy is the mind on atheism.

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            29. Ben, It is a fact that atheists have committed the greatest genocides in human history. I gave you men. I gave you the numbers. And you still deny what is common knowledge. Your mind is on atheism.

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            30. Hitler’s religion was lying and murdering for the sake power, wealth, and self-glorification. He misrepresented every philosophy and philosopher he wrote and spoke about. The same is true of every ruler who seeks to establish a personality cult.

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            31. I wouldn’t suggest, even for a moment, that Hitler was a *good* Christian, but as per my recent response to SoM, he *was* heavily influenced by his faith, and wrote about this extensively in Mein Kampf. Hitler, if asked, would have told you he was a good Christian, doing good Christian work.

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            32. Everybody likes to think he is a good person. That is one reason why believing in the One True God is so significant. When we honestly compare ourselves to our Creator, then we know just how untrue that is. Then, if we fear God, we begin to turn to Him and beg for wisdom.

              Do you think Hitler, who you say we are actually supposed to believe, compared himself to God and found himself less than God? Have you done so?

              Have you read the Bible? If you have, then why don’t you realize just absurd it is for a Christian to persecute Jews?

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            33. 🤔What puzzles me is why you cannot see the problems with your own words.

              The first piece of illogic is guilt by association. According to you Hitler did not follow Christian beliefs, but Christians are still guilty by association? Seriously?

              Atheism is a religion. You don’t think so? Of course, you don’t. That would too inconvenient. Why? If all religions are bad because they start wars, then Atheism is bad too, according to your own weird logic.

              Communism is Atheist sect, by the way. Like Islam, Communism is an ideological mixture of belief about God (His irrelevance) and politics.

              What do all Atheists seem to have in common? They are materialists of some sort. Atheism is essentially either the worship of stuff, sex, science, state, and self or the rejection of stuff, sex, science, state, and self for the sake of some sort of spiritual nirvana.

              You just stated a belief, your own belief, and you believe you are right. According to your own beliefs, you are a dangerous fanatic.

              Please stop and think. We know intuitively that the solution to our various problems is to know the Truth, and some people think they know at least part of the Truth. Many such people share what they believe. In a free country, we tolerate that. Because we gain so much when we learn from each other, please try to get use to it.

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            34. Aaaah, apologies, this was not supposed to come out as a wall of text, I don’t know what happened.

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            35. Ben, You trying to tell us that Bible is responsible for Adolf Hitler is an aggressive attack on the Bible. You trying to tell us that Adolf Hitler was a Christian is an aggressive attack on Christianity. You cannot come to my blog and state such things and not expect an aggressive rebuke.

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            36. Ben, Abusers like you always think it’s the other guys problem. Your comments are factually, demonstrably idiotic. That is a fact. If you find facts aggressive please leave. I do not brook your idiotic comments nor your abuse of the Bible and the blessed Christian religion.

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            37. Ben, quit blubbering like a child. Like I said before, to an abuser like you, it’s always the other guy’s fault. Atheists are free to abuse everyone and everything holy. Everyone else must just take it. Those are atheist rules which I refuse to follow.

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            38. I am loving you, you big dummy. Only a hateful person would let you get away with being so stupid. Atheist stupid is destroying our Christian society. So you cannot even begin to imagine my ire.

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            39. Ben, were I a hateful atheist like you, I would have banned you and deleted all your comments. Canceling people who speak up is what atheists are doing throughout our entire society.

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            40. Ben, you are a liar. Give one example of “the religious right trying to erase anyone. In the meantime, Google, Facebook, Twitter, the FBI, the DOJ and Brandon himself have cancelled thousands of Americans.

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            41. Ben, Another of your freakish lies. Where do you come up this creepy crawly stuff? Christianity embraces all people. Homosexuality is a sexual disorder. So what? And marriage is between a man and a woman. So what? These obvious, provable facts in no way harm or cancel gay people.

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            42. What is the Truth to you, Tom?

              That is easy. God is Truth. Of course, in your world view, that makes me a dangerous radical.

              You are trying to have it both ways. You are trying to condemn others for having beliefs about God. At the same time, you have trying to say that your unbelief in God, which is based upon a belief about God, is okay because you don’t believe.

              Did you know that some of the ancient Romans called the Jews Atheists? Why? Instead of believing in all the gods, the Jews believed in only the One True God.

              To win an “argument,” some of us will redefine ourselves with words, thinking that if the words mean what we want them to mean then we can win the argument. I am wonderful. Hence, we all — especially politicians — tack labels upon ourselves that have the most favorable connotations.

              However, the purpose of words to communicate ideas. Is a religion solely about believing in God, or is a religion about our concern with ultimate? How did the universe come to be? What is man? Why do we exist? What should be our purpose in life? What is the difference between good and evil? Various religious beliefs have different answers for those questions. So do various versions of Atheism. Yet you say Atheism just unbelief. If that is so, then are we to believe that Atheists have empty skulls devoid of thought?

              If you don’t have any beliefs, why do you so determinedly condemn religious belief? Do you believe the mind simply a void that we should refuse to fill with anything? But would that not require a belief?

              There is an old idiom, the pot calling the kettle black (the pot calling the kettle black). When Atheists accuse Christians of starting wars, they demonstrate a complete lack of self-awareness.

              The problem with Atheism is that God does exist. As Romans 1:18 says, to be Atheist requires that we suppress the Truth in unrighteousness. That is not a good way to start each day.

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            43. SOM tends to use strong language. However, when you blame Hitler’s behavior the Bible and Christianity, that is asking for a strong rebuke. You are not the first, but there is no basis for it.

              I am a bit busy. Since we have an election coming up, I should probably focus on that. The ballot where I live in Ohio is a complex mess. So, I have figure it out, and I will do a few post on that. After the election, I may come back to this discussion. Certainly worth a post on my blog.

              Thank you for the back and forth.

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            44. Ben, Everything Hitler said to the public was a verified lie. And you swallow the lies like a starving man swallows food. By their fruits you will know them. Hitler’s fruits were war, mass death and mass misery. Thus, any brain not on atheism understands immediately that Hitler was no Christian.

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            45. Ben, Your comment is irrelevant. For umpteenth time, a Christian must act like a Christian to be a Christian. The Christian proclaims Jesus as Lord. Hitler did no such thing. He was a mass murdering lunatic who could not in his wildest dreams be a Christian. The words you believe that say Hitler was a Christian are lies. Only a mind on atheism would believe such rot gut stupidity.

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            46. Ben, Anyone can document anything. That is why we all need functioning brains to determine if the documentation makes sense. Your mind is on atheism so you’ll believe any stupid thing. It is laughably stupid to believe that Hitler was a Christian.

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            47. So now you are blaming Adolf Hitler on the Bible. Such a notion is idiotic.

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            48. I am referencing Hitler’s own writings and actions, and the fact remains, he draws upon Biblical ideas.

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            49. Ben, You are a liar. Why lie about things that are so easily verifiable?

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            50. Ben, only an idiot would ask someone if they were a learned man of God. Get your mind off atheism and your questions will get less idiotic immediately.

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            51. Atheists don’t fear being thrown in jail. Yeah! Sure! Atheists don’t fear anything. Atheists are so fearless they don’t even fear God.

              Anyone can wear any label they want. So, there plenty of people who call themselves Christians just because their parents called themselves Christian. There are also plenty of Atheists who don’t even know what the word means.

              Consider.

              Matthew 7:21-23 New American Standard Bible

              21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; leave Me, you who practice lawlessness.’

              Why would Jesus say such a thing? The Greatest Commandment is to love God. If we don’t do that, we will not be accepted by God, regardless of how we label ourselves. And that is a judgement only God can make. We can only guess whether someone who calls himself a Christian actually loves Jesus.

              This is so typical.

              The difference in moral codes seems to be that Christians (and followers of other religions) are good because of the expectation of a reward, and fear of punishment. It is not in human nature to commit murder, and atheists do not murder because they fear Hell or expect Heaven for not doing so.

              It is not in human nature to commit murder? 🙄

              You are part right. Throughout most of human history, half the human race has enslaved the other half, and the slavers did not kill their slaves except those slaves rebelled. Then the slavers made an example of the rebels. The Romans, very civilized slavers, crucified rebels. Note that there is not a dime’s worth of difference between Pagans and Atheists.

              You think modern Atheistic thinking is new? Nope. If anything, the ancient Romans had a much better and more carefully considered ethics than Modern Atheists and many so-called Christians.

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            52. Here is the rest. Cellphones are not great for doing long comments..

              Anyway, the law written upon our hearts constitutes a subset of what the Bible provides, and its connection with Atheism is pure speculation. This sort of stuff provokes eye rolls when Atheists condemn Christians for supposedly believing just because they want to believe.

              Bottom line. Atheists don’t have a moral code that they can logically explain. Some Atheists may uphold a moral code, but that is because God has written that code upon our hearts, not our minds.

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            53. Mmm, phones are good for so many things, but yes, blog comments aren’t among them.

              Out of interest, you say that Biblical ideals of love are embedded in us, and that’s why atheists and Christians alike have morality. What of followers of other religions?

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            54. Love is important, but when Christianity began in the First Century, there were a number of beliefs that quickly caught on. For example, both Jews and Christians accept the idea that we can all be the children of God.

              Most religions elevate special people like the king and ruling class as being more important than ordinary people and slaves. After all, the ruling class had to have some excuse for keeping slaves.

              In the South, the slavers went looking for a Biblical excuse for slavery. There isn’t one. The Old Testament recognized that slavery existed, but it discouraged it. Similarly, the New Testament did not come out and say it, but it discouraged slavery even more strongly.

              Both the Old and the New Testament require us to love our neighbors. It is hard to say you love your neighbor if you are willing to enslave him. Nevertheless, if we want something bad enough, we will give our self an excuse for taking it.

              So, do the followers of other religions have the capacity to obey the moral law God had placed within our hearts? Is that just something Atheists can do? I suggest you read Luke 12:41-48.

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            55. Ben, The fatal logical error in your comment (all atheist commentary is based on logical errors) is that you have created God in your own image. Such an image is a shallow, two dimensional cartoon character. Atheists must turn God into a cartoon character otherwise their atheism just doesn’t work out. Find out who God is and then get back to us.

              If God asked me to kill you, I would, without hesitation. That is because God only destroys or orders the destruction of, evil. Thus, Noah’s Flood when humanity had become so evil he regretted having created man. Thus King David, who spent decades slaughtering the wicked Philistines. Luckily and happily, Christians don’t role that way.

              Regarding your massive misunderstanding of the Abraham story, the Bible reader must first understand that the Old Testament heralds the coming of Christ. In this particular story, Abraham is a stand in for God the Father who offered his only Son as a sacrifice for all the evil that men have done and will do. Isaac was a stand in Jesus. The fire wood that Isaac carried was a stand in for the Cross.

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            56. This, SoM, is highly disturbing. You would kill me, for no reason other than because God told you to? I would not kill you, no matter what demands God made of me, because despite our differences, I do not consider you evil. Misguided, certainly, but evil? No. You and I have different philosophies, but that is not enough for me to kill you. It is apparently enough for God to kill en masse, and for you to kill me on a word.

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            57. Ben, I gave you a full explanation which you conveniently ignored. You ignore the truth to make atheism work out for you.

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            58. I ignored nothing. You are trying to justify why you would arbitrarily murder me, which is highly disturbing.

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            59. Ben, There is no arbitrariness about God’s command. I explained that. I only explain things once to atheists because your intellectual capacity has been crippled by atheism. Repeating simple, easy to understand concepts to people with no capacity to understand, is futile.

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            60. Ben, I see that you banned me from your blog just as I predicted. You atheists are so predictable because your minds are on atheism.

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            61. Ben, You informed me of nothing, you liar. How dare you come back to my blog after you banned me from yours.

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            62. Today Ben, in the economy of the grace of God, he neither approves nor commands wholesale killing.,Thus you are safe from good people.

              You may want to consider the grace of God.

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            63. Ben, Your comment is based on you applying your own post modern personal worldview to a culture long, long ago, far, far away. Unless your purpose is atheist propaganda, that dog don’t hunt.

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            64. Ben’s, Since God’s shocking violence in the Bible is aimed at evil, it is good.

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    Sorry if I have cut you off from commenting. there was problem that I needed to deal with and you happen to be on of the commenting casualties.

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  3. Hitler was not a Christian, though he was raised in a Roman Catholic family. His father was very violent, and abused Hitler. He was into the occult later in his life,after departing Catholicism. He wasn’t an atheist, because he believed in the supernatural. As for Stalin, he was raised in the Greek Orthodox church, and studied to become a priest, he even was a spy for the Tsarist regime for a while. Both of his parents were violent,like Hitler’s. Ditto for Mao. I noticed a common theme for dictators all over the world- they were severely abused by one or both parents. And never healed of those primary traumas. Putin had a similar situation as a poor kid living in those Soviet apartment blocks. His early life was bleak. In Communist doctrines, the Party heads demand and get worship. So they’re in competition with any dieties out there, be it Jesus to Buddha. This is why religion,including Shamanism, was outlawed officially. Heck, even Genghis Khan( Chingiss Khaan) believed in freedom of religion, as long as one didn’t get in the way of his agenda. I myself could never become an atheist. But what made these infamous people so terrible was their bad upbringing. Atheism was simply used as an excuse for this stuff. At any rate, Christians are never to kill anyone. Ever. Is it worth forefeiting one’s eternity to do the above ?? Of course not !

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    @Ben. Hitler was a No.1 criminal and he was a atheist in disguise of Christian because he persecuted catholic clergies. This is a proof to show that hitler was a atheist.

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    These atheist are like devil’s siting scriptures to find faults in the divine acts of God. Atheist has no moral principles and they want God to excuse their wrong deeds every time. One may say why God kills for a small wrong. Being rude, showing no respect to elders, committing adultery, killing poor animals for sense gratification and for profit, telling lies, stealing and not following scriptural injunctions are all characteristics of atheist qualities. If these bad qualities are not checked initially by severe punishments. Then people will have no idea of good and bad and they will commit all sinful deeds in the name of culture. This will result in mass violence and unrest in the human society ultimately the annihilation of the entire human race of this world.

    So, it is clear from the bible that God punishes those who deviate from commandments. punishment is for the reformation of the soul to attain the kingdom of God.But these atheistic rascals will never understand and accept the sublime activities of God.

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    Enjoy the super idiocy of a top scientist atheist.

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    why my comments not posting. Silence.

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    .. Recently, I had an discussion with John atheist.
    https://thesuperstitiousnakedape.wordpress.com/
    In God hypothesis topic. He was contradicting his own statements. That fool says, living cell is not actually living but it can live by receiving energy
    from closed system like sun. Which activates ATP in our body which is the cause of sustenance and energy for the body. So, there is no need for divine
    soul or God needed for life.

    The insanity of atheist can be seen very clearly at first site. If the living cell is not living and how it will live when random energy is added to the
    so called living cell which is actually dead?.

    I presented my version but he has blocked me without reason. I asked him a question, can the dead body produce a living child?. He just escaped from answering
    my question.

    My first proposition is, the energy which he mentions can work only when the body is alive not in a dead body which also has the all the living cells.
    He has no knowledge of second laws of thermo dynamics and his presentation of argument is based on imaginations and it is not scientific.
    This sort of dumb reason of atheist kills common sense.

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