Teaching Atheists the Priceless Value of Religion

For people on the cutting edge of life the virtue that religion teaches can mean the difference between life and death.

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Two common teachings of the great religions are forgiveness and letting go.  During my four years living in a Hindu-style letting go was the great teaching, day in and day.

We took vows of poverty, chastity and obedience.  Those virtues are the exact opposite of the vices that now power Western society.

Atheists are particularly hostile to virtues which require sexual temperance and obedience.

But it is through poverty, chastity and obedience that the human being learns to forgive and let go.  And in my case, learning those lessons literally saved my life.

Later in life, I had become a successful public school teacher and had worked with a select group of other teachers to fund and build technology laboratories that served underprivileged students.

We were allowed to work in the labs we had slaved over only for two years.  Then, in the name of fairness other teachers where put in charge of the labs and we, the original designers and builders, were sent packing.

Within a year, our team leader was dead.  He’d stroked out.  He was only 42 years old.

I went on to build labs and LAN systems at the three other schools I taught at for the remainder of my career.  In each case, the principal or district superintendent took my work and gave it to someone else after I had completed it.

Having learned to let go, I just figured it was my duty and pleasure to spread goodness everywhere I was, no matter where I was.

Of course, supervisors who take such routine and ruthless advantage of their employees kill the goose that lays the golden egg and insure that their employees work just enough to get by.

But I would forgive my tormentors and then just move on.  Abuse is abuse, after all.

How does all that compare with atheist values?

It doesn’t because atheism has no values.  How does the atheist learn to spread goodness in a dark and unappreciative world?

For atheism does nothing to improve the spirit, mind and body of the individual whereas, the development of the mind, body and spirit is the objective of religion.

Instead of sacrificing for the glory of God (read that, for the well being of our neighbor) under atheism, all achievement is simply self aggrandizement.

And I saw with my own eyes how self aggrandizement can lead to premature death.

28 responses to “Teaching Atheists the Priceless Value of Religion”

  1. Oh my, look at the tumbleweed here! Glad to see you posting though, doesn’t it feel good to share?

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    1. Truly, I have lived a full life. Thanks for dropping by!

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  2. Errum, weren’t you just doing your job, as an employee:?

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    1. I went where no teacher had gone before.

      Unfortunately in a system where everyone is ‘just doing their job,” nobody cared.

      Everyone just felt entitled to their piece of the pie that I baked.

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      1. So Mr. Keating in Dead Poet’s is fashioned loosely on you, huh?

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        1. That story took place at a private school for rich kids.

          I taught underprivileged kids.

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          1. Right, so you were just doing your job, as an employee.

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            1. Did you not learn about the priceless value of religion from this post?

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            2. Give me a sec, let me re-read it…… Oh I see!

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    2. John,

      The rich and super-privileged people like you aren’t the only ones who can show initiative.

      Common people like me showing initiative is what separates Americans from Brazilians.

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        1. Thanks for dropping by. It’s always a pleasure!

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          1. I’d live here if i could 🙂

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  3. You have an interesting story, thanks for sharing it.

    “For people on the cutting edge of life the virtue that religion teaches can mean the difference between life and death.”

    Oh, amen to that. What surprises me is the cruelty of atheists and their cognitive dissonance about it. People clearly state over and over again that religion has meant the difference between life and death for them and then atheists come along and say, “no, religion is bad, you’re using it as a crutch.” That’s not true at all, but supposing it was? What kind of human being runs around trying to kick people’s crutches out from under them?

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    1. Insanity,

      It seems like atheists are very privileged people who haven’t seen enough of life to be broken by it.

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      1. Somebody smart once said, “how else could Christ enter except through a broken heart?”

        Atheists do tend to perceive themselves as brave enough to see the world as it really is and courageous enough to tough it out. I try not to laugh and to remember I once had such illusions, too.

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      2. Wow, you are just full of great insight, aren’t you? I doubt you’ve even met an atheist in real life, given your overall lack of knowledge and sweeping generalizations. I can say with 100% certainty that not all atheists are privileged, nor are most atheists ignorant of morality or supposedly religiously-derived teachings.

        As a person who spent 30 years adhering to religious doctrine, including attending graduate school for theology; as a person who grew up poor and felt the struggles of discrimination and poverty; and as a person who teaches and works with low-income, struggling students on a daily basis, I resent any notions you posit about atheists being privileged and not being broken by life. You are one of the most ignorant bloggers I’ve ever read.

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    2. “What kind of human being runs around trying to kick people’s crutches out from under them?” That’s an excellent point Insanity, I think sometimes we do get carried away with the argument and forget how important religion is in some people’s lives. I personally know people I would never attempt to discuss my opinions with because I’d be terrified what kind of devastating effect a change in their world view would have on their life.

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    3. But, I should add, I do tend to stick to arguing with people who are open to discussing for the sake of it, or who are promoted harmful versions of Christianity. I’m trying to give them a better crutch.

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      1. Trying to give them a better crutch, hmmm, I kind of like that. You probably don’t know this Violet, but when I am not poking fun at atheists, I am busy calling out mostly
        Christian men who promote a very distorted version of Christianity. For the most part Christian men are quite delightful, but it only takes one projecting his own twisted perceptions onto others to really taint the whole loaf.

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        1. There we go, we’re on similar missions after all. You’re just more wrong about things than me. 😀

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  4. I’m sorry, but I don’t understand the thought process behind the idea that atheists have no values. I am an atheist. I do not believe in God, nor do I even care to. I am however a human being and share this earth with other human beings and animals. I believe that my time spent here on earth is all I have, and every day alive is a blessing.

    “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” is applicable in my life just as it is anyone else’s. The only difference is that I am not trying to live an exemplary life on earth as to be rewarded in the afterlife. Morals and ethics are not a complex issue to understand as an atheist. When you are nice to someone they are generally nice back. When you do good to others they generally do good to you.

    You get what you give regardless of your religious beliefs.

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  5. James,

    You are but one of a multitude of atheists who hold Christian values dearly.

    That is because you grew up in a Christian society.

    Like anyone else in the world, your values generally come from your home culture.

    That being said, imagine if you grew up in an atheist society like China where human life has less value than a bucket of warm spit and the atheist regime controls all aspects of life – who lives, who dies, who gets rich, who stays poor, who moves to the city, who stays in the country, etc.

    Since atheism lends absolutely nothing in the way of value to human existence, purely atheist societies tend to be brutal and tyrannical.

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    1. Living in a Christian society is not what gives atheists a sense of morality. Yes, Jesus taught beautiful things. I know because I’ve studied them. But, Christian values alone do not constitute all there is to morality. Have you ever read anything other than the Bible?

      Humanism, itself related to atheism, has provided far more to the world than Christianity. In fact, no one ever fights wars over humanism or naturalism. No one ever kills each other due to whether or not they believe in punctuated equilibrium or gradualism.

      Study history, silence. You have a lot to learn.

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  6. Why is it that you think that religion is the only way to teach values to individuals? I think your view of Atheist is rather distorted. I agree with James, but your criticism of him is misplaced. You are trying to associate communism with atheism, but that is really out of place. There are many European countries that are secular societies that do not have the problems you placed on China. You are associating one “atheist regime” with all of them which is clearly not true. I can do the same thing with christian societies that are abusive, controlling, intolerant, etc.

    Of course the whole concept of Atheism as a world view is misplaced entirely. An atheist simply means the person does not believe in god. You can have an atheist who is a conservative, or liberal, or socialist, or humanist, as long as they do not claim to believe in god.

    You’re right, atheism has no values, because it isn’t a value system! Secular humanism is a value system that many atheists associate with. Now, take that and try to claim that it does not add value to human life.

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    1. Art,

      Thank you for stopping by! Your comment is exceptionally thoughtful and demonstrates that you have delved far below the surface of this topic.

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    2. Great points, Art.

      And I would suggest China is more of a theist regime, as there is a tendency in communistic and socialistic societies to celebrate the leader as approaching a deity. In North Korea, for instance, Kim Jong Un is as close to a deity as can be, as were his predecessors.

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  7. “How does all that compare with atheist values?

    It doesn’t because atheism has no values”

    I think this is true, because atheism is merely the absence of belief in a deity. Atheism has no tenets or dogmas and atheists are just people who form their own values through experience, their own reasoning which surely is at least influenced by their environment.

    So these people’s values have almost nothing to do with the atheism (lack of belief in deity), as the only common thread between atheists is that lack of belief – not a set of beliefs.

    Their values are likely honed overtime, as i would argue religious people’s are as well. the religious are not born with knowledge of their values, but they build them overtime and hone and sharpen them over lifetime as they study and practice to gain “better understanding” withing their own religion. A non-religious person would do the same, but would not hold up any one religion as being truly divine or completely correct, but instead may use their reason (affected by many factors) to determine what is good or bad.

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